For forty-four years, Brent Friedman has kept a secret. Not entirely — he told his wife, and once a truncated version made it onto a DVD extra, and there was an interview with a journalist that barely registered. But the full story, with names and details and everything it means, has never been told to the public. Until now. In the summer of 1981, John Herrington was a Reagan insider with a security clearance higher than the President's. He'd spent months being briefed in an underground bunker, and one night he sat down with eighteen-year-old Brent on a Virginia back porch — nursing a drink, something Brent had never seen him do in all their years as neighbors — and said: aliens are real, I've seen them, and I cried myself to sleep for months after learning the truth. When Brent asked why he was being told any of this, Herrington's answer was quiet and certain: "Who's going to believe you?" He wasn't wrong. But that conversation would change everything, eventually inspiring the NBC series Dark Skies more than a decade later. Herrington would go on to serve as Reagan's Secretary of Energy, the department that has increasingly been linked to the secrecy around the UAP issue. That same year, a low-budget UFO thriller called Hangar 18 was making its way onto cable television — and it was putting ideas on screen that the culture wasn't remotely ready for. Ancient aliens shaping human history. Captured craft at secret government facilities. Humanoid beings that weren't the benevolent space brothers of Close Encounters. NASA as a participant in the coverup. Bryce and Brent revisit the film and find that its ambitions, however scrappily executed, hold up surprisingly well against what we now discuss in congressional hearing rooms. After Brent tells the Herrington story in full for the first time, Bryce brings two pieces of compelling and corroborating evidence that have emerged recently. Neither one is a smoking gun. Together, they're something much harder to dismiss — and they speak to why Sound, Light & Frequency exists at all, and why Bryce and Brent believe that Hollywood, government, and The Phenomenon have always been closer than anyone wanted to admit. Hosted by Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman. Find us on iHeartPodcasts or wherever you get your podcasts (just search SOUND LIGHT FREQUENCY). Visit us at SoundLightFrequency.com Sound, Light & Frequency is produced by Stellar Productions. Executive Producers are Bryce Zabel, Brent Friedman, Nick Johnson, and Jackie Zabel. SLF on X: @HollywoodUFOs