In this fascinating conversation, Martin Willis speaks with Jay Hammen, a school psychologist and longtime UFO researcher, about a theory that attempts to connect UAP sightings, entities, consciousness, trauma, telepathy, altered states, and other high-strangeness phenomena into one larger framework. Drawing from thinkers such as Jacques Vallée, Carl Jung, and Terence McKenna, Jay lays out the idea of a “field” of consciousness that may help explain why the phenomenon can appear physical at times, yet deeply psychological or interdimensional at others. Jay also shares personal experiences that shaped his thinking, including an unusual UAP sighting in Florida, synchronicities, meditation experiences, and observations from his professional life that led him to question whether trauma and altered perception may play some role in how certain phenomena are experienced. The discussion moves into remote viewing, missing time, Rendlesham, Ariel School, Skinwalker Ranch, and the possibility that disclosure may be far more difficult than people imagine if the truth is stranger than a simple extraterrestrial explanation. This is a thought-provoking episode for anyone interested in the deeper side of the UFO mystery, especially the consciousness and interdimensional aspects that continue to surface in witness accounts and modern UAP discussions. Whether you agree or disagree, Jay presents a compelling attempt to connect many of the most puzzling threads in ufology. Submit your UFO story by voicemail: https://podcastufo.com/about/voicemail 👉 Join us on Patreon — Get ad-free podcast episodes (for any media player) for as little as $2/month: https://podcastufo.com/support-the-show/support-us-one-time-payment/ 🧢 Podcast UFO Merch (Shirts, Hats & More): https://martin-willis-art.square.site/shop/podcast-ufo-merchandise/6Y3MOSMPO2OCJMA5QJXEUY6W?page=1&limit=120&sort_by=category_order&sort_order=asc 📬 Sign Up for Our Weekly Newsletter — Get updates on upcoming guests, blog posts, and more: http://eepurl.com/LPHKD 🌐 Our Website: https://podcastufo.com 📱 Follow us on Social Media: Twitter (X): https://x.com/PodcastUFO Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PodcastUFO 📺 Subscribe on YouTube (It’s Free!): https://www.youtube.com/user/PodcastUFO?sub_confirmation=1 BIO: Jay Hammen is a school psychologist with a lifelong interest in UFOs, consciousness, and anomalous phenomena. Drawing on psychology, philosophy, and decades of interest in ufology, he has developed a conceptual framework he calls the Convergence Theory of the Consciousness Field, which explores the possibility that many paranormal and UFO experiences may represent different interpretations of interactions with a shared informational field of consciousness. Jay approaches the subject from a psychological and cross-cultural perspective, examining how altered states of consciousness, creativity, mystical experiences, and anomalous encounters might intersect. His work synthesizes ideas from researchers such as Jacques Vallée, Carl Jung, John Mack, Diana Pasulka, and Terence McKenna. Outside of his professional work in psychology, Jay is also a musician and songwriter. Martin Willis, Host Podcast UFO Est. 2011