First from the Jesse Michels interview this year, Bob says the sports model was recovered from the water: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpWe3n5XZDs Jesse: was there any talk of how these crafts were retrieved Bob: I know I mean I know the Navy got the Sport model and I think that, from what Barry said that was an archaeologic which, by the way, isn't in the desert it's in the water And I if there's another term for an archeological dig that's in the water I don't know what it is I thought it's still a dig but yeah that I don't know what body of water if it was the ocean or lake or what but yeah that came from the water, again according to Barry, I didn't see this in documentation but yeah that was happened upon by the Navy and that's that's all I know, and that's I just theorize that's how the Navy got in control of everything it's what you constantly https://youtu.be/LpWe3n5XZDs?si=X9EVJVJcIxbJYrrU&t=217 Later at this spot in the episode. Jesse asks: Jesse: Would any of the scientific principles that you looked at as far as the bubble being created around the craft and all that somehow be immune to salt water like would it be able to travel trans medium Bob: Yeah, Absolutely! Light bent around the craft... yeah I'm sure a raindrop would too https://youtu.be/LpWe3n5XZDs?si=zYqhGkrsBDKgyqhv&t=248 Then in this segment the S-4 director seems to imply Bob Lazar has known these items are associated with the ocean when he worked at S-4 in 1989: S-4 Director: I've been involved in this whole thing since 1987 and since the 80s or even before let's go even all the way down to the 60s everybody always talked about the US Air Force and Project Blue Book and Project Blue Book yeah I mean Bob Lazar comes out in 1989 and says they weren't crash saucers they were intact craft yeah and it's the Navy that's in charge and funny enough 40 years later that's what people are talking about. So you know when I see then you whistleblowers come out like Eric Davis yeah or people that we're seeing I'm not skeptical at the fact that they were involved in something what I find very like basically very interesting is that they're all saying exactly what Bob said in 1989 but they never say Bob Lazar is possibly factually right. The problem with all of this… is that Bob wasn't saying all this in 1989. It is true that he said he said his paycheck came from the Department of Naval intelligence, but in 1989 and for at least 25 plus years after this, Bob never mentioned anything about the Sports Model being recovered from a water archeological dig. Bob Lazar - International UFO Congress (2015) https://preview.redd.it/3by1skhgbvxg1.png?width=356&format=png&auto=webp&s=0835ad26735785b73dbaf8064a2c0c65ac7fb9f9 This is apparent from this interview with George Knapp at the 2015 International UFO Congress George: It occurs to you. hey this could work not only in space but underwater maybe that's why the Navy's interested running the program I mean that it's odd isn't it that it's the US Navy run the program out there you know? Bob: That never occurred to me, no, I swear!... to this I'd never even thought about that thing operating underwater. George: It would work just fine wouldn't it? Bob: I guess… I don't know I..I mean yeah I don't understand why I wouldn't but it would be interesting to see what the water does So here is my problem. If Barry told Bob Lazar in 1989 that the sports model had been an archeological retrieval from water, why the heck is 2015 Bob Lazar completely surprised at the idea of the sports model UFO working in water? This makes no sense at all. That would have been a major consideration if it had been found in water, and if Bob had been told by Barry it had been found in water, but Bob in 2015 it surprised by this idea, and not really sure the sports model would be able to travel in water. While various rationalizations could be created to address this contradiction, the evidence suggests that the detail about the 'sports model' being retrieved from water is a later addition to Bob Lazar’s narrative, at least in my opinion. If you find any faults in my research on this please let me know and would love to know your thoughts… submitted by /u/HeathJett [link] [comments]