Welcome to That UFO Podcast: Off The Record — a more relaxed roundtable discussion where we step away from the usual interview format and get into the latest UFO/UAP stories, debates and controversies. For this episode, I’m joined by Dan Cleary from Others From Another Mother and Clint Weldon from Night Shift / Doomer Fridays. We discuss Jeremy Corbell’s new documentary Sleeping Dog, the reaction to his recent Area 52 interview with Chris Ramsay, the mysterious War Gov UFO file releases, the alleged “Rubik’s Cube” whistleblower moment, Lue Elizondo’s latest comments, claims around “four races” of non-human intelligence, the question of whether UFO disclosure has truly gone mainstream, Trump’s AI alien posts, Karl Nell’s disclosure roadmap, and the ongoing gap between US momentum and UK media skepticism. A casual, honest and wide-ranging conversation on where the UFO topic is right now — and whether this is really disclosure beginning to unfold. Check out Dans show - https://www.youtube.com/@OFAMpodcast Check out Clints show - https://www.youtube.com/@NightShiftActual Get my book Atlas of Unidentified Flying Objects: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs Timestamps 00:00 Welcome To Off The Record 01:11 Why Corbell Is Back At The Centre 01:33 Sleeping Dog And The Human Side Of Corbell 07:21 The Area 52 Interview Reaction 13:28 The War Gov Video Drop Mystery 18:24 Rubik’s Cube And The Whistleblower Moment 21:00 Has UFO Disclosure Gone Mainstream? 25:58 Elizondo’s Somber Warning 29:38 Trust, Hype And UFO Personalities 35:16 Are Whistleblowers Really Being Supported? 37:28 The UFO Community’s Responsibility 42:08 ISS Sightings And Private Sensor Networks 44:20 Orbs, Evidence And Public Fatigue 45:19 NASA Files And The Moon Triangle Image 46:57 Global Pressure On Disclosure 48:17 The Japan UFO Release Rumour 50:02 Why Disclosure May Be Happening Slowly 52:04 Elizondo, Hal Puthoff And “Four Races” 57:59 Why Are UFO Craft Different Sizes? 01:01:30 Abductions, Mantids And Strange Details 01:06:14 Interdimensional Platforms And Wild Theories 01:13:55 Ross Coulthart Challenges Elizondo 01:17:10 AATIP, AAWSAP And The Origins Debate 01:19:17 UFO Camps, Influencers And Strategy 01:22:58 Why Disclosure Needs Multiple Players 01:23:50 Trump’s AI Alien Posts 01:28:39 Has Trump Been Briefed On UAP? 01:35:19 What Could Release Two Reveal? 01:37:58 Karl Nell’s Disclosure Roadmap 01:42:59 Is There A Disclosure Plan? 01:46:16 Is This Really Mainstream Yet? 01:52:48 UK Media, Stigma And Skepticism 01:55:52 Distraction, Politics And Public Doubt 01:58:30 Final Thoughts And Guest Plugs 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL