https://reddit.com/link/1ttcpwa/video/lf5f6onbbk4h1/player Grusch’s recent interview with Judicial Watch is a trove of great information. Among many interesting tidbits, Grusch confirmed the existence of Immaculate Constellation and goes onto explain that it’s possible for the White House National Security Council to construct a SAP in such a way as to avoid any reporting to Congress, the Gang of Eight, etc. His statements regarding Immaculate Constellation being hosted by the White House/NSC align with statements previously made by Matthew Brown. Interview: “The minute she (Nancy Mace) uttered the words Immaculate Constellation, you know, the shredders, you could probably hear them down the hall. You know, they fired up and they were feeding stuff into shredders or burn bags. Are you going to tell us what Immaculate Constellation is?” Grusch: “Well, I would imagine that some burn bags and shredders may have happened. And I think a nuke went off on that. I have to be very careful about discussing that code word. But like I said, it was an old NSC activity. And I know how it was controlled, but you have to remember. So here's one of the loopholes they use, right? So there's White House special access programs. There was something called covert access programs, 50 U.S. Code 3093. Those are the programs reported to Gang of Eight, Gang of Four. You know, that's like assassination stuff, et cetera. You know, other things the government doesn't acknowledge. But there's a, you know, a way to develop a White House SAP that is non-covert action. White House special access program, if you look in the law, there are no reporting carve-outs or requirements to tell the speaker or the majority leader or anything like that. And so that was one of the tricks of the trade, burying it over in the Department of Energy, but also keeping it in these non-covert action programs that five people on the NSC know about and the president at one time. And then, you know, it has custodianship over across the Potomac in McLean. “ https://youtu.be/Q3BpTZXmDns?t=3370 (56:00) Judicial Watch. (2026, May 5). UAP Whistleblower David Grusch on “Non-human” Biologics & Craft. YouTube. Background: The first time the public heard of Immaculate Constellation was in a report supplied to Congress (and a longer version to SSCI) by Matthew Brown, an analyst who worked at the State Department. From the report: “IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION is an Unacknowledged Special Access Program (USAP) established following the public disclosure of the AATIP/AAWSAP programs by Luis Elizondo in 2017. Upon disclosure to Congress, it was determined that this USAP and its collateral information have not been lawfully reported to Congress.” https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/117721/documents/HHRG-118-GO12-20241113-SD003.pdf (page 1). Again, in an interview with Corbell and Knapp: "Immaculate Constellation is an unacknowledged special access program established after the exposure of AATIP in 2017 by former USDI officer Lou Elizondo and that's the gist of that first slide." https://youtu.be/ZAxI-LDrDqA?t=2047 (34:24) Jeremy Corbell. (2025, April 29). Immaculate Constellation - UFO Whistleblower Goes Public : PART 1 : WEAPONIZED : Episode #74. YouTube. In a recent interview with Corbell and Knapp, Brown added more details, which align with Grusch’s statement that Immaculate Constellation was run by the NSC: “I try not to introduce information I've learned since into my testimony or whatever, but I think what you're getting at is true. It's been learned through multiple sources that Immaculate Constellation is housed or ran out of the National Security Council.” https://youtu.be/GZ1MZF6qnFI?t=940 (15:40) Jeremy Corbell. (2026, March 18). Matthew Brown Exposes How Whistleblowers Are Being Set Up. YouTube. As far as I know Luis Elizondo has never confirmed any involvement with Immaculate Constellation. submitted by /u/ForeignSherbert1775 [link] [comments]