Bit of a long post incoming but trying to get some thoughts out in relation to these books which ive not really seen discussed on here in a while and very curious to get others thoughts on the content of some of these books and how they may or may not relate to whats going on. I just finished the two AJ Hartley Sekret Machines books and really enjoyed them, he is a great writer of thrillers, the end of each chapter really had my wanting to read on. I sped through both within about a weeks time. I'd recomend them for anyone interested in the topic and someone who enjoys a good thriller. I understand peoples thoughts that Tom D may have been fed BS but the books do mention a few cases which are well known outside of the books. I've read some similar books in the Cryptos Conundrum which was a great read, about to start Levenda's Lovecraft Code which Ive heard is somewhat similar and im very open to any recommendations for similar books which seem to be somewhat based in real events around the phenomenon. I read the Tesla and the Pyramid recent book which was alright as a thriller but not nearly as good as SM or Cryptos imo, still had some interesting ideas and events happening but was a bit cheesy, total bait for anyone interested in alt history tho. I wanted to have a discussion about some of the events on the books and how they relate to other events talked about in the 'lore' and things mentioned within other books. Def some spoilers ahead if you've not read either of the 2 Sekret Machines novels (not the Man, Gods and War series) or Cryptos. A few things I found interesting and wanted to get others takes on.. Was interesting to see Blue Gill triple prime mentioned within book 2, it had some details which were not discussed in the American Alchemy interview with Harald Malmgren such as the conflict with China in trying to gather the wreckage following the high altitude test as well as the appearance of a UFO destroying part of the wreck.. Ofc this could have been done for the story itself and not based in reality but I'd assume if there was a conflict in trying to recover the crash, it'd have been noted within the docs and info we have on it or within the interview with Malmgreen by Jesse Michels. The book also touches on the betty and barny hill story in one chapter. The first book section on the diary of the Polish guy who escapes the camp after working on the Die Gloke is interesting, he then goes onto try help hunt Nazis in south america post ww2. Very curious if this account lines up with any stories others have mentioned, it absolutely could be a mash of multiple peoples accounts put into one story for the sake of the continuity of the book. Operation Highjump is another 'real world' event which is talked about in sekret machines in some detail, from memory it doesnt cover a huge amount of new info outside of the nazis' possibly moving their valuable research to South America and Antartica bases. The one I find most interesting is the ancient tablet mentioned in Sekret Machines which seems to be mentioned in American Cosmic and Tyler. In American Cosmic, Diana Pasulka notes that Tyler was placed within a room with an object which had a significant impact on him and his research, the item was placed in a blocked of room away from visual sighting but Tyler claimed it has a direct effect and some sort of abstract contact with him which opened up his mind to downloads relating to advancing his bio-med work and the downloads which followed this contact. In the SM books the characters find a really old tablet and in book 2 go on a hunt to find a second one, there is a hunt on to gather it by a few parties including the 'breakaway Civ team" and the US, along with the archaeologist who wants to find Atlantis, the location of it is in Crete which is an interesting tidbit too. The first tablet helps Alan, one of the pilots to fly better in the triange craft + disc with enhanced ability and it also links the main characters consciousness who are exposed to the 'tablet'. Is it possible this tablet could be a real item which was discovered or dug up, or something which has been kept hidden for a long time as its powerful, could this has been an item the US gov have searched for an taken from another country (Iraq??) or from archeological digs as the book implies. We have had stories of 'ufos' being found in digs but ofc its all rumours. Has anyone heard of anything like this in any other UFO lore or media? Its interesting its popped up in the 2 books as well as possibly being at NASA and used on or with Tyler as part of his training and work for NASA/ NSA/CIA and whoever else he works for. There are rumours of some AI or device which the gov have had which they use for national security, could it be a tablet of sorts. The Cryptos Conundrum has a similar sort of item which is more of a crystal which si activated which gives the main character a sort of view into the past and future, again could this be a mention of a similar device the CIA/NASA/US GOV or Intel services have access to which is used at the top level with some people. Appears to be some kinda off world tech which on exposure, opens up individuals with greater psychic or consciousness abilities and connection with others. I do understand these are fictional books but they all are written by those who claim to be in the know and to have buried some truths into their books. In SM's, the breakaway civ seems to be a mulit national conglomerate who play a big part in funding black projects which include the TR3B like triangle crafts, its again implied the main character doesnt need to know where they came from to be able to fly them but i assume its reverse engineered tech which has been put to new use. Russia. via the breakaway civ, have their own version of these crafts but in a different arrow shape craft with more or less the same capability + lazor weapons which seem to be the latests and most effective weapon available in black tech, something which has been mentioned online a few diff times. There was a since deleted post in which the poster claimed ot have cracked the Cryptos artowrk and was brought into some sort of program where he saw items which hieroglyphic like symbols he was on a team to try decipher, ofc we've heard rumours of some craft also have these sorts of symbols too. These books both talk about ancient tech being found or acquired and used by the gov which does line up with a lot of ufo / uap Lore. Cryptos has a few cool stories of encounters with large UFOS out in the ocean, one they shoot at to try take it down, I found Cryptos to be super engaging. The part of Cryptos where he goes to this off world location where he is in the presence of these god like beings is super interesting and overlooked when the book is discussed. Each being is sort of given a planet to look after or look over to make sure they develop (from memory). There is the one who lets loose the swarm which lives to kill off some other NHi which happen to be the ones which crash landed at roswell (within the Cryptos book). Both these books also mention these Swarms, a sort of hive mind alien NHI which is on the way to destroy anything its path which is why the CIA build these underground cities to try keep people alive long enough to survive the swarm and let humanity continue. DUMBS are certainly nothing new and almost surely real to some extent, the extent and size of them is up for debate i suppose, as well as their long term purpose but its said they are more or less underground cities at this point with rail travel long distances between US cities to other bases underground. Sekret Machines has one of the characters abducted and injected with something which alters her DNA, presumably making her some sort of hybrid or a person with extra sensory perception, it also covers some DR who treats two of the main Military guys from a young age with some experimental stuff to presumably turn them into hybrids of sorts. Whats interesting is, in her abduction/encounter she knocks the heads and masks off the Greys head to reveal scientists working with masks on, posing as greys but doing similar hybrid tests or injecting patients with something to change their DNA. In SM they also plant these fake Grey bodies within some of the crafts incase of accidents, it seems the characters come to see the fake aliens as covers for the pubic or other IC in case of an accident but i assume the tech they have is all NHI tech but the fake bodies are used as cover if need be. Are there any other stories people have heard where they are able to reveal the greys are actualy people and not aliens. In Redfern's final events, he refers to an account where a lady is repeatedly taken or abducted but on the last time, the trick they use to sort of hypnotise her or put her in this trance state doesnt work and its revealed that its army men in black fatigues which are with her and once they realise they can see them clearly, they slowly walk out and apologise which puts a stop to these events happening going forward. Im not really sure where im going with this post but wanted to get others thoughts on some of the events on these books and what may or may not be based in reality. I wrote this pretty quick and have left out quite a few details from the books and have not really proof read a lot of it so hit me with questions if you wanted clarification on some of this but i think you'll get the gist. We all know Tom's stories about his advisors giving him inside info to use as basis in his books so he can 'reveal' classified info through a novel and the suspicions people have around this. There are some really crazy claims in SM's books 1 and 2, i presume there is a lot which is used for story telling but there does seem to be nuggets which line up with other UFO lore and insider/whistleblower stories, same goes for Cryptos which was written by an ex CIA guy who claims to have insider info and told readers to 'read between the lines' to work out the truth within his book so curious what others think?? submitted by /u/default99 [link] [comments]