Bryce Zabel returns to the podcast and Brent Friedman makes his first appearance as we discuss their new show, Sound, Light, Frequency, along with Dark Skies, Hollywood, disclosure, and the long-running question of whether entertainment has helped shape public perception of the UFO topic. In this conversation, we get into Brent’s early experience of being briefed by a figure connected to the Reagan administration, the mysterious approaches made to Bryce and Brent around Dark Skies, whether similar quiet conversations are still happening today, and how both men now view the state of UFO disclosure in 2026. We also discuss the idea of a government-Hollywood relationship, the role film and television may play in preparing the public, and where the line between fiction and reality may be starting to blur. Topics include: Sound, Light, Frequency Dark Skies Hollywood and UFO disclosure Government influence and media Brent Friedman’s early briefing Quiet approaches from insiders Disclosure, narrative, and public perception Check out Sound, Light, Frequency wherever you get your podcasts. Timestamps 00:00 The Secret Behind Episode 4 00:48 Meet Bryce Zabel & Brent Friedman 02:30 How Brent Entered the UFO World 04:51 The Real Idea Behind the New Show 11:46 The Mystery of “JC” 15:10 Did Hollywood Work with Government? 17:28 UFO Lore, Side Paths & Hidden Threads 26:36 The Hollywood “Unholy Alliance” 29:50 Disney, the Robertson Panel & UFOs 32:02 Spielberg’s Disclosure Day Moment 33:44 When Film and Politics Collide 34:30 Is Spielberg Hinting at Something? 35:37 What the Trailer May Reveal 37:09 A Coordinated Media Rollout? 40:00 Spielberg’s Place in the Bigger Story 43:20 The Many Forms of NHI 45:44 Listener Question: Controlled Disclosure? 48:38 The Future of Dark Skies 53:05 Would They Reboot Dark Skies? 54:40 Do Our Minds Shape the Phenomenon? 1:01:35 The Briefing That Changed Everything 1:06:35 Where to Follow Bryce & Brent 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL