Evidence For Suspicious Account Activity Around the Recent/Ongoing UFO File Releases
Evidence For Suspicious Account Activity Around the Recent/Ongoing UFO File Releases
I've been tracking some suspicious accounts for a week or two, and spotted one that I was quite confident was inauthentic, and potentially part of an anti-disclosure influence campaign, targeted specifically at peoples' perceptions about the US Gov releasing their UFO files . I found some interesting stuff! TDLR: The account is responsible for numerous posts inviting peoples' questions about the release of UFO files, and about how trustworthy those involved are. At the same time, the account is posting in Skeptics forums, asking them if they have seen the files yet and inviting debunks. The account is also posting in Christian forums asking them if they have seen the files, and whether they are scared about UFO's and that this could be the End Times, the Rapture, and stoking Donald Trump is the Antichrist theories. The account deleted itself immediately when I called attention to this activity (this is invariably what happens when you do this (in my experience), as the campaign is exposed to scrutiny and no-one can check for themselves anymore. In my opinion, this is part of a much bigger picture, which I've been tracking for years. I have attempted to post about this before, as I think the community needs to be aware of this and on the look out for this kind of thing, and I have good information about the specific players and companies involved in this (defense contractors with links to counter-intelligence and contracts to provide private information services, with classified contracts worth billions). I'll link to this at the end. What did I uncover? The account has been posting multiple times a day in this r/UFOs and other UFO subs (sometimes dozens of times). In this and other UFO subs - they pose as as a pro-disclosure UFO enthusiast who just wants to ask the community lots of questions about the upcoming releases and what we can expect from them, and find out what people think about the people/officials involved. The posts alternately hype the releases - and invite critique, while focusing attention on the claims about specific dates, times, and info that should be in them for the community to be satisfied. I'm pretty skeptical whether some of the specific dates/times claimed were actually stated, and admittedly some UFO media people do not do themselves any favours here, but the point still stands. At the same time, the account is posting in Skeptics forums, making them aware of the date and time of the UFO file releases, posting as a critical thinker who doesn't believe in UFO's, inviting them to debunk the files as soon as they come out (with suggestions). Here's where it gets interesting - at the same time the account is posting numerous posts in multiple Christian subreddits, claiming to be a frightened believer, asking other believers if they have heard of the pending UFO file releases, and asking them questions about whether they are scared like they are (claiming they have resorted to prayer due to how anxious it makes them feel), asking - "is this the End Times, The Rapture", etc? Even more interestingly - the account is also posting in /rDonaldTrump666 - trying to stoke fears that Trump is the Antichrist, and that the End is near. Trump, is of course associated with UFO disclosure, so people's views on it, will unfortunately be influenced by their views of Trump and his character (not a fan personally, to put it mildly! But I have yet to post antichrist theories by the score. How could this relate back to UFO's? The same account has been behind a lot of the posts here about "the Pastors" being briefed about something terrible to come from the recent/pending UFO releases, and they are also hyping this view in the Christian and "Antichrist communities" Posts: Unfortunately, the user has deleted their account. I say unfortunately, as there will likely be a new account soon posting similar). However, I have written up the "key text" for nearly every post in the last 30 days, and happy to provide this on request (although I had to skip a few as they were posting near identical posts in the Christian forums at such a rate, sometimes a dozen times a day). Posts in UFO and “conspiracy” community Subreddits: · “Anyone else scared of disclosure?” · “What do you make of the UFO files as we wait for the second release?” · “Be honest. Do you think we are finally at disclosure? What changes?” · “Do you think the UFO files are project blue beam? Are you worried?” · “Do you think this is disclosure? Are you worried?” · Remember, not all videos in the UFO Files were analyzed for anomalies · “Do we get the 46 videos this week?” · “Burlison suggests future file drops will look similar” · Why the UFO files have made me skeptical of "disclosure". Would love discussion. · “Trump to give Rose Garden Remarks tomorrow at noon” · “Looks like UFO files release beings tomorrow “ · “I did a deep dive on the current "pastor meeting" discourse.” · “Another pastor claims he was briefed on UAP” · “Walter Kirn Reports Factions are Fighting Over who gets to Disclose” · “Sources claim disclosure to acknowledge existence of obtained crafts” · “Tim Burchett says he’s been briefed on recovered bodies” · “I have really strong doubts that Trump’s actually gonna acknowledge aliens and NHI.” ~TG” · “17 earthquakes in 24 hours at Area 51” · “Chris Mellon says “avalanche” of material is coming out.” · “aaro.mil is down. Videos tomorrow?” · “I’m reading that we may get disclosure this week? Any truth or merit to Rep. Lunas demands?” Posts in Christian Subreddits, and r/DonaldTrump666 (Antichrist conspiracy): · “More UFO files to be released this week. I am getting very nervous.” · “The UFO stuff is giving me a hard time” · “What do you make of the UFO files as we wait for the second release?” · “Government files to show “human-like organism” tomorrow. What are they planning?” · “What do you think of all the new UFO videos and files?” · “UFO files to be released at 8 am tomorrow. Need prayer.” · “Multiple pastors briefed on UAP/aliens” · “What do you make of government possibly disclosing aliens? How does it relate to religion? Deception for end times?” · “What do aliens/UAP mean for Christianity?” · “Rep Burlison says government involved in “summoning UAPs”. What does this mean for Christianity?” · “Trump moves toward alien disclosure. What do aliens mean for faith? End times?” (Antichrist / Anti-Trump posts) · “What do you make of Trumps May 17th “Day of Jubilee”? (could this be when he confirms himself as the Antichrist) · “Is Trumps signature that will be on all cash starting in June the mark of the beast?” · “Tucker Carlson claims Trump has supernatural powers when around him.” · “Do you think Trump is the Antichrist?” · “Tucker Carlson denies saying Trump is the Antichrist, but leaves open the possibility” · “In weird interview, Tucker Carlson claims he never called Trump the Antichrist.” · “I’m on the fence. Constantly studying, but have doubts.” (Antichrist theory) · “Trump compares himself to Caesar and Napoleon.” · “Trumps face to be on passports, signature on bills, and buildings.” · “All currency to feature Trumps signature. Should we abstain from using cash? Could be the mark.” · “Trumps name to be on all bills moving forward. How significant is this? I’m utterly freaked out.” · “I’m seriously freaked out. Trumps signature to be on all bills starting in June. Why are we not in the streets?” · “New 15 foot golden Trump statue installed. Is this the start of his demanding of worship?” · “Trump face to appear on all US passports. He is the Antichrist.” · “What do you make of Trump hosting a national revival/day of jubilee? I’m concerned.” · “Trump to host and speak at massive “Day of Jubilee.” Does this add more evidence to Antichrist speculation?” · “Trump says he will be leaving office.” · “Was the Trump shooting planned?” · “How do you explain the weird X account related to the WHCD shooting?” · “What do you think about the rise of AI?” · “Do you think Trump is the man of lawlessness (final Antichrist)?” · “Why does everyone insist there’s “multiple Antichrists” and just just a single end times figure?” · “Mark Levin Quotes Revelation and Second coming to justify war, further supporting Trump as Antichrist.” · “Trump promising world peace. More evidence for the Antichrist?” · “Looking for a counter to this argument?” (Antichrist theory) · “Do you believe Trump is the Antichrist?” Posts in Skeptikal Subreddits: · “Tons of new UFO videos/documents released. Have you looked through them yet?” · “Multiple pastors briefed on UAP/aliens. Who’s feeding them this information?” · “aaro.mil is down. What do you think they are going to release?” \* I'll post some key text from some of these posts below, due to space constraints. Key Takeaways: This Account (and others like it) - try to super-charge hype about specific information being released on a specific date (and if possible a specific hour). ("have the 46 UFO release dates been released it's already 8am?" "Where's David Grusch's Op-ed?", etc). 2. They then try to encourage (certain) "questions" from the community - "what do you think of the coming release / the person who releases it? Are they trustworthy?" The subtext is always to invite criticism and sow discord along believer/skeptic lines. 3. At the same time, they will post emphasizing certain claims about the nature of UFO's/NHI - only the most "woo woo" ones - "UFO's are demonic", "Burlinson believes in God and thinks UFO's may be related to this" etc. This is designed to be a "dog-whistle" to hard-core skeptics, as well as people in the UFO community with more "fringe ideas" (ideally, ones they cannot articulate well and relate to science/philosophy, etc) As is the case here - you'll often see they post in Skeptic forums at the same time encouraging the early debunking of previously classified information, and also trying to foster the same associations between UFO's and dogmatic religious ideas. 4. The aim is to get people here (in the comments) to focus on circular discussions about specific less credible claims and first principles, or discussions about predictions of what may happen soon - which by their very nature are never certain things. The intent is to generate negativity and anger, which makes people predisposed to dismiss the release of classified/once classified information and the source. 5. The "questioning" posts - are essentially serving this up for other inauthentic accounts to immediately leap on (likely part of the same team), posting a series of hostile/mocking comments in response, about UFO disclosure and "UFO personalities". You will notice this particularly with any post about a whistleblower as they have the capacity to release classified information, so they need to get ahead of this and prime people for a debunk/hostile view. This is easy to observe once you are aware of it. You will notice that an unusual amount of the commentors have never posted in UFO forums before, have their account histories hidden, or age restricted. Often, they will follow sports teams or niche technical subjects for years, before suddenly chiming in on UFO disclosure. 5. If you challenge these accounts - not about their talking points (they want you to get bogged down in discussions about the irrelevant minutiae), but about their messaging and industrial scale posting/suspicious activity - they will invariably delete themselves immediately, which means your comment is no longer visible. I have observed this many times. The Campaign: You can find some information about what I and others have uncovered about the wider activity behind this and who is responsible, including the key person, the agency, and the contractor I believe are involved. I've linked my comment with the original posts here. You can also find it in my account history. (It's been removed every-time I tried to post it here) https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1t86xsp/comment/okyzetn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button This posts linked in this comment also provide advice on what you can do about this: Short version: Always check peoples account history if their comments seem off, don't argue around the "talking points", call attention to (suspicious) the post history. Watch to see if the account/comments is insta-deleted. The one thing that these actors want is to not draw attention to their activities, that compromises an account that may have taken years to build. submitted by /u/Shot_Constant9980 [link] [comments]