Below are some quotes from the recent SOL discussion that I found interesting because they came from Kirk McConnell and Jim Semivan, both of which i consider to be somewhat in the know. Semivan because he was in the higher ranks of the CIA, involved in the creation of TTSA to prepare the public for disclosure. And McConnell because he was a senate staffer that was in many of the meetings where whistleblowers testified. Kirk McConnell: serious people made allegations about govt sanctioned abductions Timestamp 1:19:22 Kirk McConnell: "Do I suspect that there have been, for example, crimes committed in the name of security over 80 years? Yeah I would personally bet some money on that. But what about things like: has the US govt States sanctioned abductions? And have even US govt personnel been present at some of them?" Kirk McConnell: "These are allegations that are made out there by serious people, right? Well if that happened, okay, why did the government agree to that? Is it because they didn't have any choice because it's gonna happen anyway and so they were there to sort of monitor or something, you know what I'm saying?" Kirk McConnell: "there needs to be a truth and reconcilliation process" Continued from above timestamp: Kirk McConnell: "[...] ultimately there needs to be a truth and reconciliation process here, right? The kind of thing that South Africa went through" He says this right after talking about the US govt agreeing to and being complicit in NHI abductions. Why would such a reconcilliation process be needed if these things didnt happen? Kirk McConnell seems to nonverbally confirm the story about Eisenhower meeting NHI This part is interesting because McConnell sat in many of the classified/closed door meetings where whistleblowers informed congress. So go to the timestamp and watch his behaviour. At the very least i think this indicates that some whistleblowers talked about this: Timestamp 1:22:00: Leslie Kean: "I mean the kinds of questions that are going to be asked, the lawsuits that are going to be filed, and then you have to deal with, as Jim mentioned earlier, the sort of paranormal aspects of this: are abductions real? Did Eisenhower meet with the aliens back at such and such a time? All of that is opened up." Kirk McConnell [who is nodding in agreement while Leslie talks]: "Yes" Jim Semivan: 2000 years of NHI stuff Found this an interesting quote because of that 2000 years part, which is obviously connected to religion: Timestamp 1:47:16: Jim Semivan: "I think we need to hear more from NHI, and they seem to be... like 2,000 years of this stuff, and they give us a little bit more [info about themselves], I think but we still don't know anything about it. We don't know their plans and intentions. We don't know if they have any ethics or morals. We don't even know if they're interested in us" Jim Semivan: what if NHI says we are incarnated for a particular purpose and they created religion Another link to religion from Semivan: Timestamp 1:54:50: Jim Semivan: "What if they say [NHI], "Well look, here is what reality is, here is what it's all about," and they go down to the quantum mechanics level and say "we're all just energy forms and you're here, manifested or incarnated in this physical body for this particular purpose". Then they say, "Religion, well we sort of introduced that ourselves and it sort of got out of hand and there's really no god per se that's this, that, and the other thing." im Semivan: "It could be so disruptive on so many levels and it's like you'd have to stack science on top of anthropology on top of religion on top of politics and on top of culture in general. It's all interrelated and it's so complex that's why I like to call it a wicked problem. I don't think there's any kind of resolution to any of this." submitted by /u/phr99 [link] [comments]