Former British Transport Police detective Gary Heseltine returns to the show to discuss the PRUFOS Police Database, a long-running archive of UFO reports involving serving and retired British police officers. Gary explains how the database began, why police testimony matters, and what decades of reports may tell us about the wider UFO mystery. According to Gary, the database includes around 550 British police cases involving roughly 1,100 officers, with many involving more than one police witness. We discuss the role of trained observers, the stigma that stops officers from speaking publicly, on-duty versus off-duty sightings, and some of the strongest cases Gary has collected, including multi-officer reports and incidents that remain difficult to explain. If police officers, pilots, radar operators and other trained witnesses are taken seriously in every other area of life, why does that standard change when the subject is UFOs? www.prufospolicedatabase.co.uk www.ukpilotsreportinguap.co.uk www.ufotruthmagazine.co.uk NON-HUMAN: The Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents: 42 Years of Denial: Amazon.co.uk: HESELTINE, GARY: 9798472631594: Books Timestamps 00:00 Giant Craft Over Police Officers 00:57 Gary Heseltine Returns 02:59 What Counts As UFO Evidence? 07:36 The Best Evidence Cases 14:08 UFO Stigma And Double Standards 17:49 Can We Trust UFO Footage Now? 21:21 Why Police Testimony Matters 21:30 How PRUFOS Began 30:47 Gary’s Disclosure Film Idea 36:35 How Cases Enter The Database 41:20 Why On-Duty Sightings Matter 42:02 The 1901 Green Cylinder Case 45:00 Twelve Officers At Stonehenge 47:28 The Cosford Case: 26 Officers 49:02 Confidentiality And Reporting Forms 51:45 Police Officers Breaking Down 57:20 What The Database Reveals 59:30 Gary’s Gold Standard Cases 01:06:49 Drones, UFOs And Police Reports 01:09:24 Trump’s UFO Videos And Disclosure 01:15:20 Would The Media Finally Care? 01:17:16 A Call To Police Witnesses 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL