I believe Bob Lazar but after all the "details" recently re-revealed it's like a S4 was a Trueman Show set for the concept of a Limited Hangout* I've listened for many hours and I don't think he's ever mentioned actual scientific work taking place. All he recalls is being shown things by colleague Barry. He covers this by saying the program was completely flawed by compartmentalisation so no scientific progress could occur. S4 being some distance from Groom lake, where live aerospace projects were actually being tested. Poor equipment (causing casualties), unclean work spaces (wooden benches would not be allowed in science labs). Craft exposed to the elements (anyone who lives in a desert like Nevada knows sand gets in everywhere!). The list goes on. *Limited Hangout: a real intelligence strategy that came to prominence during the Regan administration, designed to manage public perceptions, protect classified programmes and control the narrative. submitted by /u/PeoplesDope [link] [comments]