Ben Woodruff, biologist and researcher at Skinwalker Ranch, joins me to discuss what really happens behind the scenes—and what never makes it onto television. In this wide-ranging interview, Ben talks about his own UFO sighting, how he became involved with the ranch, and the difference between real scientific investigation and what viewers see on TV. We also get into reports of strange biological effects on animals, unexplained activity on the property, and the challenges of working under NDAs when some of the most compelling data cannot yet be shared publicly. Ben also discusses a remarkable incident involving one of his trained falcons, observations of unusual animal behaviour, and why some of the most interesting findings on the ranch are not always the most obvious ones. This is a grounded but fascinating conversation about evidence, interpretation, and the ongoing mystery surrounding Skinwalker Ranch. Check out Ben's work https://www.youtube.com/@benwoodrufffalconry https://www.jhutchingsmuseum.com/ Timestamps 00:00 Chilling Ranch Encounters (Cold Open) 00:53 Welcome + Introducing Ben Woodruff 02:36 From Biologist to Falconer 05:53 Childhood UFO Sighting 10:09 Why He Stayed Open-Minded 11:29 What He Knew About Skinwalker Ranch 16:34 How He Joined the Ranch Team 18:50 The Feeling of Crossing the Gate 21:00 Strange Animal Behaviour Begins 22:38 First Night High Strangeness 26:12 Hearing Voices on the Ranch 28:10 Early Experiments and Real Danger 31:45 Science vs The TV Show 36:17 The Cattle Case That Shocked Him 41:34 NDA Frustrations and Hidden Findings 45:27 Falcon Flies Into a “Portal” 48:19 Animal Anomalies and the Ranch “Dome” 54:04 Who’s Really in Control? 59:58 What Is a Portal, Really? 01:09:22 Creatures, Cryptids and Ice Age Animals 01:14:59 What Physical Evidence Exists? 01:19:10 When UFOs Become Routine 01:28:29 Cattle Mutilation Theories 01:37:25 Dire Wolves, DNA and the Black Jaguar 01:52:24 Skeptics, Bias and Misidentifications 02:02:34 Disclosure, Bigfoot and Final Thoughts 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL