Something has shifted dramatically in the last few years. The institutions and information structures we were trained to trust have failed in ways that are now difficult to ignore, producing a kind of generalized mistrust that makes it hard to think, hard to act, and hard to know what a good life even looks like anymore. In this episode, Kelly sits down with philosopher and author James Madden to examine what it means to navigate belief and meaning when the ground beneath shared reality has already given way. Jim is the author of Unidentified Flying Hyper-Object: UFOs, Philosophy, and the End of the World and Thinking About Thinking: Mind and Meaning in the Era of Techno-Nihilism, and a longtime thinking partner whose refusal to offer easy answers has made him a favorite among listeners of Kelly's previous work. They talk about the complacent indifference that has settled over people in the wake of seemingly endless waves of institutional scandal and revelation. They talk about conspiracy thinking as a cognitive response to the collapse of trusted authority—and why the fact that some conspiracies turn out to be real makes the situation harder to navigate, not easier. They talk about why generalized epistemic mistrust is such an effective mechanism for preventing meaningful action. And they talk about what it means to keep trying to live well when you can no longer trust the information you would need to do it. Topics explored: epistemological collapse | conspiracy thinking as cognitive response | institutional trust failure | the "big other" | generalized skepticism as paralysis | information warfare | the psychology of indifference | epistemic mistrust and political action | radical self-reliance | faith and probability | living well under uncertainty | Žižek | Lacan | Plato's Republic Inquiry with Kelly Chase is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio. Produced in partnership with Voltage.fm. Referenced In This Episode Unidentified Flying Hyperobject: UFOs, Philosophy, and the End of the World, James Madden: https://amzn.to/4t3pkq0 Thinking about Thinking: Mind and Meaning in the Era of Techno-Nihilism, James Madden: https://amzn.to/4cr9foc Republic, Plato: https://amzn.to/4m8UAl7 The Agnostic Inquirer: Revelation from a Philosophical Standpoint, Sandra Menssen & Thomas D. Sullivan: https://amzn.to/4tpYU1z Check Out James Madden's Podcast: The Great Dangerous Books Podcast⁠ —YouTube⁠: https://www.youtube.com/@GDBPodcast —Spotify⁠: https://open.spotify.com/show/5TDFBlrSbgl47PfJEDWIMI?si=83bfe3b515c8413d ⁠—Apple Podcasts⁠: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-great-dangerous-books-podcast/id1816055942 Support The Show Patreon: inquirywithkellychase.com Substack: inquirywithkellychase.substack.com Connect with Kelly Website: kellychase.media X: x.com/kellychasemedia Instagram: instagram.com/kellychasemedia Watch Season 1 of Comosis: UFOs & A New Reality Prime Video: https://www.primevideo.com/detail/0GR10KHFPAGTE1FK7173P5I2N1/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r Tubi: https://tubitv.com/series/300019017/cosmosis-ufo-a-new-reality TIMESTAMPS 04:50 Indifference and Partisan Filters 06:03 Frozen by Mistrust 07:41 Ontological vs Epistemic 09:33 Medical Trust Breakdown 13:13 Sheep Bandits Skepticism 18:23 Conspiracy Comfort Trap 22:07 Secrecy and Leaks 26:00 How Conspiracies Operate 28:32 Black Budgets Disinfo 30:57 UFO Skepticism In Principle 34:34 Portal Claims and Psyops 35:56 Trading Obscurity for Obscurity 38:43 Counting Humans Knowledge Limits 41:32 Good Life in Uncertainty 44:09 Moron Idiot Imbecile Framework 46:14 Radical Self Reliance and Trust 50:16 Skepticism Without Denial 55:29 Faith, Doubt, and Jesus 01:01:09 Keep Seeking Do Good 01:02:17 Credits and Where to Listen MUSIC The Uh Experiment by RimskyMusic License Purchased via PremiumBeat MONETIZATION ID: Z0GIJ3LKTGDGRDBE