(EXCERPT) Full Episode out now: Today’s guest is Al Sandy Suharjono — a longtime UFO researcher from Indonesia with nearly three decades of experience investigating sightings and building one of the country’s oldest UFO research communities, BETA-UFO Indonesia. But what makes Al especially interesting is that he’s not just a researcher. He also served as an Assistant Special Staff member to the President of Indonesia from 2019 to 2024, working in strategic and international affairs — giving him rare proximity to high-level government and decision-making. In this episode, we step outside the usual U.S.-focused narrative and explore Indonesia’s own UFO history — from Cold War-era sightings over Surabaya, to alleged encounters in remote islands, and even claims of a 1997 crash recovery gifted to the CIA. We also get into how culture, religion, and perception shape how UFOs are understood in Indonesia — and why much of this global history has gone largely unnoticed. This is a fascinating conversation that broadens the UFO discussion far beyond the West. Want to support the channel? Please consider buying me a coffee ☕️ https://buymeacoffee.com/uapfiles LINKS Al Sandy Suharjono’s instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elisandy/ BetaUFO: https://betaufo.id UAP Files Instagram https://www.instagram.com/uap_files?igsh=enRvNG5reGowd2w%3D&utm_source=qr #ufo #uap #uapfiles #uapfilespodcast #crashretreval #indonesia #indonesiaufo #ovni #alsandysuharjono #cia #1997ufo #1997 #1997ufocrsh